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Markiplier's Relationships

Post by shyguyflys » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:18 pm

Hi all!

After looking at the main thread for Mark, I realized that a huge chunk of it lately has been dedicated to talk of his past relationships instead of other things going on on his YouTube and life, such as current videos and cons. For the sake of organization, I feel that it is best if all talk that concerns Mark's current and past relationships should be kept here.
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Post by Nikittycat » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:28 pm

Good idea! Thanks for making this. :)

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Post by foxymoxxy » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:32 pm

Fair enough. Sad to say this thread will probably get the most traffic from now on because stalker fangirls, but oh well.

Yeah, my comment was just speculation. My bad you guys. I'm gonna try to avoid phrasing certain things as facts if there isn't supporting evidence :P don't need to fuel the witch hunt for lurkers. I don't really care if they did go together, im glad she's having fun and he's doing.... whatever the hell we just saw today.

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Post by shyguyflys » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:36 pm

You're welcome!
I was just trying to be considerate to those who only come to the Mark forum to talk about things OTHER than his relationships. Now, since this topic has a centralized location, they can now come to talk about those other topics on the main thread.
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Post by shyguyflys » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:39 pm

The only reason the main Mark thread is so developed is because of this talk. I mean, let's face it, most of us wouldn't be here if it wasn't for this topic.
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Post by BunTheMarkiBunny » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:45 pm

I'm so happy to have this made!!
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Post by foxymoxxy » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:49 pm

True...I wouldn't be surprised if more lurkers come up out the woodwork to join in now.

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Post by shyguyflys » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:54 pm

Lurkers have been popping on the thread like crazy in the past three days on the main threads because of this topic alone.

Also, the "yandere" shirt that Mark is sporting is not to match the guest and was not custom made. I was informed that these shirts were being sold in bulk.
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Post by shyguyflys » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:00 pm

https://www.facebook.com/creatorsguildofficial

Here's the link to the vendor who was selling her shirt.
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Post by foxymoxxy » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:05 pm

So he most likely bought it just because of the game's influence on him lol still don't get why people on tumblr think he's suddenly disturbed. Drama club over there

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Post by BunTheMarkiBunny » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:06 pm

shyguyflys wrote:Lurkers have been popping on the thread like crazy in the past three days on the main threads because of this topic alone.

Also, the "yandere" shirt that Mark is sporting is not to match the guest and was not custom made. I was informed that these shirts were being sold in bulk.


Ohh... okay that makes much more sense now. But they must have been going into the store together right? They both have bought at least one thing from there. I am also pointing out that one says 00 and one says 01. Not like it matters much since they were sold like that but still.
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Post by M0nkeeButt2590 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:12 pm

foxymoxxy wrote:So he most likely bought it just because of the game's influence on him lol still don't get why people on tumblr think he's suddenly disturbed. Drama club over there


Tumblr is a bit oversensitive at times. Look at how every time he makes a vlog they start crying. I guess I'm different, I was never that emotional as a teen, especially over a celebrity.

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Post by moran » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:17 pm

BunTheMarkiBunny wrote:Ohh... okay that makes much more sense now. But they must have been going into the store together right? They both have bought at least one thing from there. I am also pointing out that one says 00 and one says 01. Not like it matters much since they were sold like that but still.


They sure bought them together but the numbers, as far as I can see, are all the same on every shirt so I don't think they mean something. Anyway, I do think that they are together, wherever they are lol ('cause you know, filler videos).
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Post by boldnewtaste » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:22 pm

moran wrote:
BunTheMarkiBunny wrote:Ohh... okay that makes much more sense now. But they must have been going into the store together right? They both have bought at least one thing from there. I am also pointing out that one says 00 and one says 01. Not like it matters much since they were sold like that but still.


They sure bought them together but the numbers, as far as I can see, are all the same on every shirt so I don't think they mean something. Anyway, I do think that they're are together, wherever they are lol ('cause you know, filler videos).


it's all very possible that they're spending time together. only reassuring thing is that she had a friend with her... at least at one point. i will be curious to see how this develops.

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Post by ritzcrackerz » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:23 pm

Well, the ex tweeted about 15 minutes ago on her cosplay page that she'll be posting a vlog from the con. So, I guess until then, we'll have to wait and see what she posts.

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Post by BunTheMarkiBunny » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:24 pm

moran wrote:
BunTheMarkiBunny wrote:Ohh... okay that makes much more sense now. But they must have been going into the store together right? They both have bought at least one thing from there. I am also pointing out that one says 00 and one says 01. Not like it matters much since they were sold like that but still.


They sure bought them together but the numbers, as far as I can see, are all the same on every shirt so I don't think they mean something. Anyway, I do think that they are together, wherever they are lol ('cause you know, filler videos).


True. That's why I said that it probably doesn't matter much.
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Post by Kierans » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:37 pm

kei wrote:Hey folks, another lurker coming out of the woodwork to weigh in on this. (I'm sensing a trend.) I normally stand back and wait for the storm to blow itself out with these things, but this is what, his third storm of the year? Fourth? Indy Popcon seems like it was the first tangible evidence to him of just how big everything has become. He essentially broke the convention by sheer numbers alone, and despite staying hours longer than he was scheduled they still turned folks away. That had to be equal parts flattering and terrifying.

I was surprised no one had mentioned the Sonic thing on Twitter a day ago. Most folks didn't even know about it until the video he posted today. Have to wonder if he's aware people know about them now and this is his way of trolling them? Not that cosplaying is a bad thing, but the timing is strange. Everything about that video is strange. And honestly, it's the first ever video of his that I find myself refusing to watch, just because the pics alone have a whole "weird" vibe. Not the good weird, it's the disturbing weird. The "I've been getting progressively more concerned since the 8 million reaction video, where he seemed more frustrated than happy" weird. Yeah, he probably thinks it's funny. Hell, it might be funny. Maybe he thinks he's a walking meme machine now. I'll never know. But it looks more like a train wreck, and god knows we see enough of those.

Also have to wonder if the issue stems mainly from her perceived intolerance of his subscribers and mods. I say "perceived" because I've never really seen anything on her social media to give that impression; she's pretty quiet there overall. Again, I'm pretty new to this, so I don't know much about the previous stuff. It's a difficult position for him to be in, where he continually expresses gratitude for his subscribers when he's seen with a girl whom others apparently believe wishes they would all disappear. And before people ask for links, no, I don't know; I wasn't here for the "mod fight" or the semi-public breakup, though I believe the latter should have been private. I respect him for trying to keep it private, but I also don't hold her responsible, since people in a bad space with access to a public platform will often make bad decisions. All I know about the mod issue is from an old blog post by one of his former moderators, who had said his other mods only discovered they were no longer mods by logging into his chat and noticing their privileges were revoked after she had expressed a desire to have them removed. I won't link to the post because it mentions her by name, but it's easy enough to find.

Bottom line, Hollywood celebrities tend to have an entire team of PR experts and spin doctors to help them maintain their public image regardless of reality. YouTubers don't really get that luxury, and have to do damage control by themselves. He's a 26-year-old dude who used to be a younger dude that only wanted to make people happy. Not only did it work, I think it worked a little too well and now he's not sure how to deal with a subscriber base that swelled far beyond what he ever expected or was prepared for. It's just unfortunate that, while his "crew" (and I include Jack in there now) successfully managed to include their significant others in their online work, he can't (and probably never will) because part of his marketing tactic is exuding an aura of availability. He's a freaking genius when it comes to branding...not so much with personal boundaries.

I had more to say, but I'm forgetting right now. :P Everyone knows he's offbeat, usually in a good way. So for long-time subscribers to genuinely be worried about him after this...eh, there might actually something valid behind it. All I know is, if I came across his latest videos now for the first time instead of even a few months back, I wouldn't have subscribed. And that actually hurts me to say, believe me. Despite everything his opponents take issue with, he seems like someone who genuinely wants to make the world a better place, and that means something in this jaded world. That's why recent events only make this more upsetting. :|

Maybe a lot of it is his underage fans wanting to be his mother or whatever misguided or creepy reason, or he suddenly decided trolling his viewers is a good thing. Maybe he's just "trying new things" as one tumblr post put it, but if the subscriber base you rely on is suddenly scrambling to rationalize or justify your actions, you might want to rethink your strategy.


Quoting this from the main thread because I think it bears repeating, but I mostly wanted to respond to the part in bold. His brand, which I'm calling "sexy-voice-always-single-gamer-mcgee," :rofl: will only perpetuate his fanbase's immaturity. Is it possible to change this? I don't know. Maybe it's too late for that. Still...if he stopped with the fanservice and started being upfront with his fans (you know, extending courtesy to the people who you repeatedly say "changed your life" to the point of tears), maybe things would get better. But if he had a choice, I don't know if he would change his image. It's probably an awesome ego boost to know that scores of teenagers would swoon over you.

That's a good point about his crew including their significant others in their YT lives. Bob and Mandy started a Twitch show together, and I think she pops up in his livestreams, too. Wade's gf Molly does regular livestreams. Jack's gf Wiishu draws a lot of fan art. I really like what I've seen from all three of them so far, and fans have mostly been respectful towards them...but then again none of them are in a relationship with someone who's brand is largely built around availability, as you said @kei. If Mark wants to do the same as his friends (which would be super interesting to see, not gonna lie), his public image/brand needs some serious changing first.

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Post by foxymoxxy » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:46 pm

I highly doubt she's gonna film him. She's probably just gonna point the camera around at everything at the con. She hardly has shown her face, which is part of connecting to an audience as a vlogger, your expressions! So hopefully when she returns to AZ she'll do at least weekly vlogs in her home. It's important to keep filming, even if it's just one a week. Otherwise the connection will continue to be lost.

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Post by boldnewtaste » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:56 pm

Kierans wrote:...but then again none of them are in a relationship with someone who's brand is largely built around availability


that, right there.

i mean, i guess if that's you're whole schtick, whatever, to each their own, it's definitely not the most tasteful method of business but whatever... but don't deceive people and don't do that to the people who have relationships with (unless they're 100% willing and able to do that)

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Post by Dragonmax » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:32 pm

Kierans wrote:
kei wrote:
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Quoting this from the main thread because I think it bears repeating, but I mostly wanted to respond to the part in bold. His brand, which I'm calling "sexy-voice-always-single-gamer-mcgee," :rofl: will only perpetuate his fanbase's immaturity. Is it possible to change this? I don't know. Maybe it's too late for that. Still...if he stopped with the fanservice and started being upfront with his fans (you know, extending courtesy to the people who you repeatedly say "changed your life" to the point of tears), maybe things would get better. But if he had a choice, I don't know if he would change his image. It's probably an awesome ego boost to know that scores of teenagers would swoon over you.

That's a good point about his crew including their significant others in their YT lives. Bob and Mandy started a Twitch show together, and I think she pops up in his livestreams, too. Wade's gf Molly does regular livestreams. Jack's gf Wiishu draws a lot of fan art. I really like what I've seen from all three of them so far, and fans have mostly been respectful towards them...but then again none of them are in a relationship with someone who's brand is largely built around availability, as you said @kei. If Mark wants to do the same as his friends (which would be super interesting to see, not gonna lie), his public image/brand needs some serious changing first.


You are all correct. Mark could've introduced his SO to his viewers, but he felt that his selling point was being Mr. Fan Service... Without that, he might feel that his viewership will go down. But underneath it all, Mark is still a funny guy with lots of wit and that's what got him viewers way back when he started. He has to tone done the fan service a bit, I guess.

foxymoxxy wrote:I highly doubt she's gonna film him. She's probably just gonna point the camera around at everything at the con. She hardly has shown her face, which is part of connecting to an audience as a vlogger, your expressions! So hopefully when she returns to AZ she'll do at least weekly vlogs in her home. It's important to keep filming, even if it's just one a week. Otherwise the connection will continue to be lost.


I read in one of her tweets one time that she thinks facing a camera and rambling felt awkward. Unless she's gonna do shit a la ChaoticMonki*, she definitely needs to show her face since she'll be in the cosplay scene.

*And obviously I don't think she is gonna do it that way lol.
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Post by M0nkeeButt2590 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:46 pm

If her whole shtick is cosplay, she has to put her face online. She has to show off her whole figure actually to model the costume.

The ASMR she eventually wants to start up though is all audio, so that could work.

But otherwise, she's gonna have to get used to the fact that the whole internet is going to be watching her. Can't get around that if you want to be famous.

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Post by frogert » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:48 pm

It's just a weird circle, he's afraid to tell fans because bitches be crazy, tells them hes single all the time they become crazy, mark sees craziness and runs for the hills, they chase him wanting to be gf, just a continuous circle.

He should fucking break it, don't be a p*ssy about it, tell them straight up, if they leave hate, block them and say you don't want anyone who bullies or condones bullies of others being a fan of yours.

The ones that are his "real" fans will stay.

He should know that.

Also, regarding her vlogging, she's new, and doesn't have a fanbase to back up the no showing faces thing, if she had a fanbase and was just private or awkward then it would make sense but ONLY with the fanbase to back it up, but the basis of vlogging is showing your life (or snipped up 20 minute selection of your life) so it's dumb to be awkward if you have a channel that does/STARTED on vlogging, woman up and don't be a bitch baby about it, if you're actively putting yourself out there on the internet.
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Post by M0nkeeButt2590 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:56 pm

Also as a side thought: If he's that afraid of his fans' reactions, then by extension isn't he lying when he says that the community is such a positive, loving, and open group?

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Post by Deebop2 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:05 pm

To be honest, I lost a lot of respect when I found out he got back with his ex. He left her. For a reason. And I thought he was so sure of his decision that I felt it was okay to not be there during her almost dying of heartbreak situation. Being sticking around would only prolong the pain. I thought he acted correctly despite seeing that most people disagree. But getting back with her because by now, 6 months later, he's lonely and hasn't gotten the p***y he envisioned he'd be getting, now he's desperate and knows his ex is even more so and has opened up the door and let her come running home to him. It's desperation. And he knows he already decided he didn't want it to be forever. This is obviously just to patch up the loneliness, without a care about this girls feelings. Which to be honest I have a bad feeling about as well. She just seems like a super obsessive fan girl who is like "see? Daddy loves me! And not you guys!" She feels like she's dating a rockstar and therefore a winner. I just pulled away from Mark as soon as I saw that. Then I looked in here again and noticed everyone was mentioning his videos lately, specifically, the love matchmaker one and the yandere thing so I watched them. And woah... I've never seen him that way. He's obviously in a bad mood. He's not cheerful or silly. He's just recording for the hell of it and you can tell he's completely upset and annoyed. He couldn't even say his outro, it was more of an "peace, eff this" Honestly if that's what he's gonna be like from now on, he shouldn't have subscribers.
And then I saw the sonic video...........
And I lost the last bit of respect for him.
Did he think that was funny? I actually considered him intelligent. Before all this.
And just by the way, what I originally felt was the reason why he let her back in was because he felt guilt. Just that he hurt someone and it made him feel like a bad person. That's what all those rants were about I always felt even before she came back. The "perspective" post on tumblr, the pic caption on Facebook about how he wished he had done things differently. I always thought that was guilt/him wishing he still had someone to love. I think it's to get rid of guilt and loneliness. He wouldn't have dumped her if he really was in love with her/wanted to be with her. He just realized things didn't play out the way he planned them to. Whether it was finding the right girl for him or just not ever feeling lonely and just focusing on his work without having to have this person around weighing him down. He just didn't think he'd feel lonely.

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Post by foxymoxxy » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:11 pm

i support her as an individual. i would support their relationship, BUT she still doesn't believe in having an identity without him being in her life. that's my problem with them being together. in her mind she is not complete without him. once she convinces me she believes that her life completes itself, only then will i support the relationship because i do not want to see another suicide post and "poetic" quotes for days. i don't want her to relapse even worse than the first time. i don't want her to give up on herself because he gave up on her. i don't want her to simply pass the time with cosplay while she waits for him to change his mind again. i want her to accept that she may not end up marrying him and starting a family with him. my problem is that emotionally they were not invested on the same level. i want her to accept that no matter how many things she gives him it won't always be enough. i want her to live and love for herself no matter what. i want to see her succeed and make a name for herself. as another user told me, "she has potential". she's talented! i want her to count her blessings everyday. i want her personal accomplishments and future success to be the best thing that's ever happened to her. i want her to stop fixating on Mark as a means to fill a void. i want her to stop living in fear everyday that she's with him because she's afraid of losing him. not every loss is a loss. i want her to stop telling herself it's impossible to move on because SHE CAN. i know she can because she lived, she survived, not because of him, but because of herself.

Jess, Mark can't do anything for you that you can't do for yourself, including loving you.

(whew! sorry this is so jess centric, but dammit if i'm gonna stick around for this)

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