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Post by chunkyflunky » Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:57 pm

Super lurker here. This thread is crazy interesting. The psychology-major-that-only-existed-until-sophomore-year in me is really fascinated.
I can't help but think that Mark has a secret weapon that could get him out of this. Not 100%, but at least 75%. He just needs to make a video of himself crying. If he made a long vlog of himself just admitting to his lies and using as many self depreciating words as he knows, just really laying himself out as a terrible person who doesn't deserve his fandom or something, the fangirls would totally eat it up.
He'd still have to deal with the "whoa he dated a fangirl that means I have a chance" stuff, but most of Tumblr would be too busy making gifs of his tears to really dig into the deception. And if he painted ex lady friend in a respectful but still negative light (i.e. "we had a lot of issues and I just needed to get away" or something), then her magnificent reveal will be a tad tainted and not so easily (though still pretty easily) used as troll fodder. Take away the "ooo mysterious lady" facet of her and replace it with "implied that she has problems".
There's definitely, absolutely, positively no way out of this without sacrifice; he has truly, as y'all have pointed out, backed himself into a corner. But he's armed with a fandom that swoons and coddles when he sheds a tear. Seems kind of like a doorway towards a staircase towards a hallway towards fixing things.

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 2

Post by mochikins » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:14 pm

Kierans wrote:
ilikecupcakes wrote:Well if she wants to be know and he doesn't want her to be know then Me$$ needs to just walk away because I'm pretty sure if she was really important to her he'd make her be known. It's not a good relationship when one person wants to keep you hidden and act single.


I can't imagine caring deeply about a significant other and wanting to keep it a secret from other people. Yes, there are over 8 million of those people, but when you've told them about other private aspects of your life, you'd think telling them about a girl you liked would be no big deal. And call me weird (and a bit offtopic) because this probably means nothing, but the fact that Tom barely even spoke to her at the SDCC booth is something I still find interesting.

Did Mark really hide their relationship just for the sake of the thirsty fangirls? Is he really that afraid of disappointing them or is there a whole 'nother side to this that we're not seeing? Does he think that his looks are all he has to keep the views up? If that's true, then why bother making so many vlogs extolling the values of the community if in your mind that community is only there to thirst after you? :roll: I'm not saying that he does think this...just some thoughts of mine...

Cat_Lady22 wrote:I hope that Me$$ doesn't start doing the whole 'bunny boiler' routine if Mark gets a new gf...

She seems to be the obsessive type.


I can see her doing that, unfortunately. If he does go public with a new gf, her first response would probably be, but why didn't you do that with me? Cue social media meltdown. :(


^^^ THIS. ALL OF THIS. :respekt: ^^^

If I was in Me$$'s situation and it was going to be a serious relationship, then the people gotta know at some point. If I cared that deeply about the person I'm with, I'd want to share that. Now, if Mark doesn't feel that way about this girl, then they need to talk. If this is something that he doesn't consider serious, and they're not willing to work something out, then they just shouldn't be together. Because neither of them will be happy. It'll be taxing on the both of them: Me$$ will feel trapped and Mark will feel hindered. JUST TALK, you guys. Communication is important. And this goes for anybody, not just these two.

If Mark wants to date, then he needs to let his fans know. So, when he's not uploading as frequently, we'll know its because he has someone that he has to spend time with. We understand that YouTubers are still just normal people, and they have lives. They get tied up in other things, they see friends, attend parties, go out drinking, hell, they even just get LAZY sometimes!! Its okay. That's life.

Mark also has to understand that he needs to be cautious when dating fans. It'd be hard to exclude 8 million people from your dating pool. So, I can't see him completely ignoring that, especially when he meets tons of people at events. You just never know who will catch your attention.

Whoever gets with him in the future needs to be strong, and understand what she's getting into. I can't imagine how stressful that life must be for both parties involved.

LOL Sorry for practically directing this message to Mark, Me$$, and whomever else it may concern! I just need to vent. I feel like I need to inform these people. All this drama just gets under my skin!
I feel like a mom sometimes...Or a bossy big sister. Hahaha!!! /derp :rofl: :roll:

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 2

Post by mochikins » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:25 pm

lastroseofmay wrote:
kei wrote:

Also, while I was typing this, he apparently tweeted something about how girls play games too. I took it at face value, since that's something he'd say, but someone on tumblr took it an entirely different way and now I wonder if he knows just how many ways that one simple phrase can be taken. :?




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lastroseofmay, what did you write? I'm curious now. :3 Cuz, when I saw that tweet, I immediately thought: bruh, mindgames. Lemme tell ya! Lmao!!

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Post by foxymoxxy » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:01 am

I don't think jess would harass mark and his new gf, but im 99% certain she'll make vague tweets about him choosing someone else over her for a while. She never stopped being a fan even when they broke up. How will a new gf in the public eye affect her fan status? Is she gonna act all chummy with the gf on social media? That seems pretty likely.

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 2

Post by lastroseofmay » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:59 am

mochikins wrote:
lastroseofmay, what did you write? I'm curious now. :3 Cuz, when I saw that tweet, I immediately thought: bruh, mindgames. Lemme tell ya! Lmao!!


Oh! I wrote "
*Gasp*
I wouldn't have known.
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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 2

Post by PsychGrad0317 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:06 am

Okay, so here's my thoughts on Mark vlogging a "Knock it the HELL OFF!" message :rofl: : He would have to do a complete 180 first. Mark on a vlog is Mr. Rogers mixed with a little Joel Osteen. He's funnier, yes, but he has that serene quality when vlogging that makes everyone feel good. It hasn't always been that way, but that's where his vlogs have gone. If he wanted to lay down the law, he'd have to summon that part of him that shows up at cons, the one that pounds tables and gets a little loud saying "NO!", but he'd also have to mean it. Can anyone really see him doing that?

I think he could, if he really wanted to. He could draw on some of the frustration that's been growing inside him and let it all out, then edit the hell out of it. The way Jack did it was brilliant because he apologized first. He said "I caused it and I'm sorry", then proceeded to say "knock it the hell off". If Mark doesn't know where it went off the rails, then he doesn't know if it's his fault or not. He can't pinpoint where he might have made a mistake. So he may not be able to summon the apology that Jack did, and he may not be at fault anyway really. It's hard to say.

At this point, I think Mark has lost his chance to do it the way that Jack did. He's going to have to take another route. I don't know what that route would be, but ignoring it isn't helping and encouraging people to love the world isn't either. So now what?
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Post by frogert » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:16 am

chunkyflunky wrote:Super lurker here. This thread is crazy interesting. The psychology-major-that-only-existed-until-sophomore-year in me is really fascinated.
I can't help but think that Mark has a secret weapon that could get him out of this. Not 100%, but at least 75%. He just needs to make a video of himself crying. If he made a long vlog of himself just admitting to his lies and using as many self depreciating words as he knows, just really laying himself out as a terrible person who doesn't deserve his fandom or something, the fangirls would totally eat it up.
He'd still have to deal with the "whoa he dated a fangirl that means I have a chance" stuff, but most of Tumblr would be too busy making gifs of his tears to really dig into the deception. And if he painted ex lady friend in a respectful but still negative light (i.e. "we had a lot of issues and I just needed to get away" or something), then her magnificent reveal will be a tad tainted and not so easily (though still pretty easily) used as troll fodder. Take away the "ooo mysterious lady" facet of her and replace it with "implied that she has problems".
There's definitely, absolutely, positively no way out of this without sacrifice; he has truly, as y'all have pointed out, backed himself into a corner. But he's armed with a fandom that swoons and coddles when he sheds a tear. Seems kind of like a doorway towards a staircase towards a hallway towards fixing things.


Lol if he did a crying vid over not telling his fans that he dated someone and acted single, he'd be the laughingstock of youtube, no one would respect him and think of him as a whiny fucking bitch with a "poor me" attitude, sadly I bet some already do and it would be embarrassing/cringey to watch.

I personally think he should just cut ties with her completely and ignore/block her on all social media and any relevancy she got by being associated with him dies, but there will always be a few hanger ons for Mark info, but that's desperate fangirls for ya.

So the crying and begging for forgiveness and saying he is a piece of shit for his fangirls over dating some chick and not telling them/acting single is a no in my book, it just feels like it wouldn't work and it would cause some pretty intense shade from other youtubers and kinda ruin his youtube image.
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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 2

Post by M0nkeeButt2590 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:05 am

frogert wrote:
Lol if he did a crying vid over not telling his fans that he dated someone and acted single, he'd be the laughingstock of youtube, no one would respect him and think of him as a whiny fucking bitch with a "poor me" attitude, sadly I bet some already do and it would be embarrassing/cringey to watch.

I personally think he should just cut ties with her completely and ignore/block her on all social media and any relevancy she got by being associated with him dies, but there will always be a few hanger ons for Mark info, but that's desperate fangirls for ya.

So the crying and begging for forgiveness and saying he is a piece of shit for his fangirls over dating some chick and not telling them/acting single is a no in my book, it just feels like it wouldn't work and it would cause some pretty intense shade from other youtubers and kinda ruin his youtube image.


i agree with you on that. I even saw in Pewd's recent Catherine LP that he briefly mentioned how stupid it was for someone to cry on camera. Not sure if he was throwing shades at Mark in particular, but interesting to see that certain Youtubers don't agree with the emotional vlog stuff. So that tactic would definitely not work with Mark.

I think a lot of us think he should cut ties with Me$$ entirely, but he's too nice. He does care about her, although I think more of a big brother aspect imo. He likely feels guilty about what happened and is worried that she'll become suicidal again if he just lets her go.

Plus she could really do a number on his career no doubt if unchecked. For all we know she has some dirt on him and he's afraid she'll ruin him if he doesn't comply... But then again if that was the case, he'd still be dating her, so likely not. But it's a thought as well.

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Post by Kierans » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:27 am

M0nkeeButt2590 wrote:i agree with you on that. I even saw in Pewd's recent Catherine LP that he briefly mentioned how stupid it was for someone to cry on camera. Not sure if he was throwing shades at Mark in particular, but interesting to see that certain Youtubers don't agree with the emotional vlog stuff. So that tactic would definitely not work with Mark.

I think a lot of us think he should cut ties with Me$$ entirely, but he's too nice. He does care about her, although I think more of a big brother aspect imo. He likely feels guilty about what happened and is worried that she'll become suicidal again if he just lets her go.

Plus she could really do a number on his career no doubt if unchecked. For all we know she has some dirt on him and he's afraid she'll ruin him if he doesn't comply... But then again if that was the case, he'd still be dating her, so likely not. But it's a thought as well.

I get uncomfortable when anyone cries on camera, and Mark's done it too much for me to think it adds to his sincerity anymore. It feels manipulative and cheap. But the fangirls love it when their cinnamon roll shows his sensitive side! I understand that he's been through a lot and certain topics bring an inevitable flood of emotion for him, but that's not something everyone needs to see all the time. I tend to keep my own emotions tightly under wraps though, so I could be wrong. :rofl:

It could be that he hasn't cut her out of his life because she could really share some serious dirt on him. The only reason she hasn't shared anything yet is probably because she's still holding out on him getting back together with her.

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Post by Immabatman » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:32 am

M0nkeeButt2590 wrote:
Plus she could really do a number on his career no doubt if unchecked. For all we know she has some dirt on him and he's afraid she'll ruin him if he doesn't comply... But then again if that was the case, he'd still be dating her, so likely not. But it's a thought as well.


I don't know about this part. If this is true, this is bad and a lot of childishness from her. it is very shameful to threaten him with something in order to keep it. This reminds me of that movie called Obsessed :? She should think about her career and work in a fair way and not threaten him to tell him something dirty to his fans. But If not, she need focus more on her cosplay things and need respect Marks decision , like it or not.
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Post by DeathToAllSpiders » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:38 am

I just started watching the newest episode of The Evil Within. I know that this is NOT intentional metaphor, double-speak or implication on Mark's part, but the first words out of his mouth in this video struck me as so accidentally applicable to the situation that's being discussed here.

“Now I'm an idiot! But that's nothing new, so let me explain why. I started this episode without actually doing my recording... so none of the game was captured. But that's okay, because I didn't fail spectacularly! Nooooothing I did was bad - and nobody can prove that anything I did was bad in the first place – and therefore, everything is fine. Everybody understand that?”

Again, I'm not reading anything into this. I know he doesn't mean this as a comment on his relationship with Jess, or that he's drawing any connection between this literal explanation of what happened in his video and how he's handling the whole vacuum of silence around his romantic life. This also isn't a comment on my feelings about the choices he's made regarding his personal life and how much of it he's willing to discuss with his community.

But it seems to me that this is basically how he's chosen to handle the situation, whether he realizes it consciously or not. The camera wasn't on for the beginning of what happened here, but I know that you know that I probably fucked some stuff up while you weren't watching. I mean, everything went just fine and is totally cool, now! So moving right along....

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Post by Gorillaz1236 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:47 am

DeathToAllSpiders wrote:I just started watching the newest episode of The Evil Within. I know that this is NOT intentional metaphor, double-speak or implication on Mark's part, but the first words out of his mouth in this video struck me as so accidentally applicable to the situation that's being discussed here.

“Now I'm an idiot! But that's nothing new, so let me explain why. I started this episode without actually doing my recording... so none of the game was captured. But that's okay, because I didn't fail spectacularly! Nooooothing I did was bad - and nobody can prove that anything I did was bad in the first place – and therefore, everything is fine. Everybody understand that?”

Again, I'm not reading anything into this. I know he doesn't mean this as a comment on his relationship with Jess, or that he's drawing any connection between this literal explanation of what happened in his video and how he's handling the whole vacuum of silence around his romantic life. This also isn't a comment on my feelings about the choices he's made regarding his personal life and how much of it he's willing to discuss with his community.

But it seems to me that this is basically how he's chosen to handle the situation, whether he realizes it consciously or not. The camera wasn't on for the beginning of what happened here, but I know that you know that I probably fucked some stuff up while you weren't watching. I mean, everything went just fine and is totally cool, now! So moving right along....


You're right. We can't say he's talking about her or anything else pertaining to his life.

BUT I have a huge belief that Mark tells us things wjthout us knowing the full context. I think he uses Markiplier to spew things out. He knows we likely won't know the context so he feels safe doing so.


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Post by kei » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:22 am

I call bullshit on Felix, to be honest. Not to be one of "those" people defending a guy that doesn't need it (and we all know Mark's had his share of screwups), but I'd still listen to Mark over anything Felix says just because Mark has been more open with his subscribers...except for the obvious issue we've been discussing here. And yeah, tears come with honesty.

No hate here, I like them both. Felix actually looks like a pretty chill guy...and he's been way more open about Marzia than Mark will ever be about SOs. But it's stupid for him to call out people who cry on camera when one of the only times Felix ever looked even a little honest on camera was when he lost it at the end of Walking Dead Season 1. I would agree that crying just for sympathy is horribly manipulative, but I haven't seen that on Mark's end. If anything, he uses distraction tactics to divert people's attention away from his sadder moments.

Maybe it just comes down to perspective though. I'm no expert, of course. I just see a guy who found a way out of a dismal situation and is grateful to his subs for it, who's in touch with his emotions enough not to be ashamed of them. Did anyone watch the Pax South panel video where Wade gets pretty blunt at the end, thanking Mark for helping him avoid the cubicle life and follow his own dreams? Mark gets damn close to crying there too before recovering. I've also found his friends' reactions pretty telling over the years. Mark has actually made Wade choke up a couple times while Bob always looks like he's waiting patiently until it's over, but neither have ever been even a little surprised by it, even back in the beginning. That always suggested to me he was like that even before his Youtube career.

If the reasoning behind his tears ever changes, I'm pretty sure people would notice right away. Hell, even he said he knows he couldn't fool the viewers by making videos when he wasn't happy. (Case in point, his whole fucking channel between Indypopcon and Comic Con.) And I won't get into the 8 million video. That was just disturbing.
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Post by shyguyflys » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:29 am

As far as Felix goes, that's just his opinion on the matter, and I wholeheartedly agree with him that crying on camera can get awkward, even if it is genuine. I don't think he meant anything bad by it.
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Post by shyguyflys » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:34 am

frogert wrote:
chunkyflunky wrote:Super lurker here. This thread is crazy interesting. The psychology-major-that-only-existed-until-sophomore-year in me is really fascinated.
I can't help but think that Mark has a secret weapon that could get him out of this. Not 100%, but at least 75%. He just needs to make a video of himself crying. If he made a long vlog of himself just admitting to his lies and using as many self depreciating words as he knows, just really laying himself out as a terrible person who doesn't deserve his fandom or something, the fangirls would totally eat it up.
He'd still have to deal with the "whoa he dated a fangirl that means I have a chance" stuff, but most of Tumblr would be too busy making gifs of his tears to really dig into the deception. And if he painted ex lady friend in a respectful but still negative light (i.e. "we had a lot of issues and I just needed to get away" or something), then her magnificent reveal will be a tad tainted and not so easily (though still pretty easily) used as troll fodder. Take away the "ooo mysterious lady" facet of her and replace it with "implied that she has problems".
There's definitely, absolutely, positively no way out of this without sacrifice; he has truly, as y'all have pointed out, backed himself into a corner. But he's armed with a fandom that swoons and coddles when he sheds a tear. Seems kind of like a doorway towards a staircase towards a hallway towards fixing things.


Lol if he did a crying vid over not telling his fans that he dated someone and acted single, he'd be the laughingstock of youtube, no one would respect him and think of him as a whiny fucking bitch with a "poor me" attitude, sadly I bet some already do and it would be embarrassing/cringey to watch.

So the crying and begging for forgiveness and saying he is a piece of shit for his fangirls over dating some chick and not telling them/acting single is a no in my book, it just feels like it wouldn't work and it would cause some pretty intense shade from other youtubers and kinda ruin his youtube image.


I couldn't handle seeing such a loss of dignity if he went that far with this. There is a way to handle this situation (if he ever chooses to), and it's most certainly not this way. Of course, at this point, I don't know if it's worth it for him to admit the relationship more than it is for him to change some of the deceptive ways. Mark's not actively lying/deceiving people about it any more more than he is just not saying anything about it; if there is a lonely boy persona going on now, it's genuine.
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Post by kei » Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:03 am

shyguyflys wrote:As far as Felix goes, that's just his opinion on the matter, and I wholeheartedly agree with him that crying on camera can get awkward, even if it is genuine. I don't think he meant anything bad by it.

True, I don't think he did either. He looks pretty chill IMO. And from what I can tell they're friends. But I guess right now, with the Markiplier fandom still comparing itself to Pewdiepie's (and the other way around at times,) a simple comment could easily be taken differently.
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Post by PythonMonty96 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:38 am

kei wrote:I call bullshit on Felix, to be honest. Not to be one of "those" people defending a guy that doesn't need it (and we all know Mark's had his share of screwups), but I'd still listen to Mark over anything Felix says just because Mark has been more open with his subscribers...except for the obvious issue we've been discussing here. And yeah, tears come with honesty.

No hate here, I like them both. Felix actually looks like a pretty chill guy...and he's been way more open about Marzia than Mark will ever be about SOs. But it's stupid for him to call out people who cry on camera when one of the only times Felix ever looked even a little honest on camera was when he lost it at the end of Walking Dead Season 1. I would agree that crying just for sympathy is horribly manipulative, but I haven't seen that on Mark's end. If anything, he uses distraction tactics to divert people's attention away from his sadder moments.

Maybe it just comes down to perspective though. I'm no expert, of course. I just see a guy who found a way out of a dismal situation and is grateful to his subs for it, who's in touch with his emotions enough not to be ashamed of them. Did anyone watch the Pax South panel video where Wade gets pretty blunt at the end, thanking Mark for helping him avoid the cubicle life and follow his own dreams? Mark gets damn close to crying there too before recovering. I've also found his friends' reactions pretty telling over the years. Mark has actually made Wade choke up a couple times while Bob always looks like he's waiting patiently until it's over, but neither have ever been even a little surprised by it, even back in the beginning. That always suggested to me he was like that even before his Youtube career.

If the reasoning behind his tears ever changes, I'm pretty sure people would notice right away. Hell, even he said he knows he couldn't fool the viewers by making videos when he wasn't happy. (Case in point, his whole fucking channel between Indypopcon and Comic Con.) And I won't get into the 8 million video. That was just disturbing.


I agree with what you're saying for the most part, but I do think that Felix may be guarded because that's just how he is. I know that I'm pretty guarded with my emotions and it takes a lot for me to get worked up over something, so I can understand why he seems unemotional. Mark, on the other hand, is an open book when it comes to how he is feeling. I do think that he has changed emotionally over the past few months due to the enormous amount of stress that he has been under due to Me$$ and his growing (and sometimes out of control) fanbase. I still think that his emotions are genuine. The thing that worries me is how some fans seem to thrive over seeing him break down in tears (*cough* MSB). It's nice of Mark to film those reactions and it's nice that people want to thank him, but after the 8 million video, I think that people need to wake up and realize that Mark is a human being with emotional limits. It bothered me how so many people were saying that the video made them so happy, yet it was clear that Mark was having a complete meltdown over his entire situation. I remember back when he had fewer subscribers, fewer videos made him break down in tears, and when he did cry, it was pure happiness, not stress and berating himself because he was stretched too far. I wish it was still like that, but it won't be until he is able to sort out his priorities and come to terms with his situation.
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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 2

Post by Kierans » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:10 pm

PythonMonty96 wrote:I agree with what you're saying for the most part, but I do think that Felix may be guarded because that's just how he is. I know that I'm pretty guarded with my emotions and it takes a lot for me to get worked up over something, so I can understand why he seems unemotional. Mark, on the other hand, is an open book when it comes to how he is feeling. I do think that he has changed emotionally over the past few months due to the enormous amount of stress that he has been under due to Me$$ and his growing (and sometimes out of control) fanbase. I still think that his emotions are genuine. The thing that worries me is how some fans seem to thrive over seeing him break down in tears (*cough* MSB). It's nice of Mark to film those reactions and it's nice that people want to thank him, but after the 8 million video, I think that people need to wake up and realize that Mark is a human being with emotional limits. It bothered me how so many people were saying that the video made them so happy, yet it was clear that Mark was having a complete meltdown over his entire situation. I remember back when he had fewer subscribers, fewer videos made him break down in tears, and when he did cry, it was pure happiness, not stress and berating himself because he was stretched too far. I wish it was still like that, but it won't be until he is able to sort out his priorities and come to terms with his situation.

I don't watch Felix's videos much, but I agree with what you've said. Just from listening to the BroKen podcast, I've seen that he keeps his emotions in check and reverts to snark before anything else. I think he's pretty cool in his own way, though.

Mark's breakdown aside, the way the fandom reacted to the video is another reason why I hated it so much. I could barely watch it once, but I've seen a few people on Twitter say that they've watched it multiple times and had a good cry over it each time. No! A good cry is something you have over a sappy movie, not over a real person falling apart. I think someone mentioned this before, but the fact that so few people could see that Mark was clearly broken up in that video shows how incapable the fandom has become of seeing him as human.

Speaking of MSB, I'm sure most of you already saw that he's trying to make the 9 mil video "lighter" than the previous ones with having participants eat sour/spicy food. I'm sure it'll be amusing and all, but I still hope Mark doesn't give him anymore attention by recording his reaction to it.

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 2

Post by kei » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:37 pm

PythonMonty96 wrote:I agree with what you're saying for the most part, but I do think that Felix may be guarded because that's just how he is. I know that I'm pretty guarded with my emotions and it takes a lot for me to get worked up over something, so I can understand why he seems unemotional. Mark, on the other hand, is an open book when it comes to how he is feeling. I do think that he has changed emotionally over the past few months due to the enormous amount of stress that he has been under due to Me$$ and his growing (and sometimes out of control) fanbase. I still think that his emotions are genuine. The thing that worries me is how some fans seem to thrive over seeing him break down in tears (*cough* MSB). It's nice of Mark to film those reactions and it's nice that people want to thank him, but after the 8 million video, I think that people need to wake up and realize that Mark is a human being with emotional limits. It bothered me how so many people were saying that the video made them so happy, yet it was clear that Mark was having a complete meltdown over his entire situation. I remember back when he had fewer subscribers, fewer videos made him break down in tears, and when he did cry, it was pure happiness, not stress and berating himself because he was stretched too far. I wish it was still like that, but it won't be until he is able to sort out his priorities and come to terms with his situation.


Kierans wrote:I don't watch Felix's videos much, but I agree with what you've said. Just from listening to the BroKen podcast, I've seen that he keeps his emotions in check and reverts to snark before anything else. I think he's pretty cool in his own way, though.

Mark's breakdown aside, the way the fandom reacted to the video is another reason why I hated it so much. I could barely watch it once, but I've seen a few people on Twitter say that they've watched it multiple times and had a good cry over it each time. No! A good cry is something you have over a sappy movie, not over a real person falling apart. I think someone mentioned this before, but the fact that so few people could see that Mark was clearly broken up in that video shows how incapable the fandom has become of seeing him as human.

Speaking of MSB, I'm sure most of you already saw that he's trying to make the 9 mil video "lighter" than the previous ones with having participants eat sour/spicy food. I'm sure it'll be amusing and all, but I still hope Mark doesn't give him anymore attention by recording his reaction to it.


I think you guys hit the nail on the head, right there. They're only seeing what they want to see, and are shouting down anyone contradicting the perfect image of him they've created in their head no matter how fake it's become. He's doing his best to keep up with their expectations, but judging from the things he said at the recent cons, I think even he was concerned when people keep telling him they loved seeing him cry in that video. He even told someone he wanted those kinds of videos to be happier.

Okay yeah good that they're trying to keep the next video lighter, but...if it really is hot sauce or whatever, I hope those people (many of them underage) understand he already knows his body's limits. And sometimes he doesn't, which is why he now has that story of lying on the bathroom floor convinced he was going to die. If they're not prepared and don't know enough to take precautions, we may get another video of him crying just because he knows they could have seriously hurt themselves in the name of entertaining him.
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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 2

Post by PsychGrad0317 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:04 pm

I would like to say that I don't understand why they haven't tried to make Mark laugh instead of making him cry, but I do understand it. It's harder to be clever and witty than it is to be touching. It takes the cheap way out, really, to try to make him cry instead of trying to make him laugh. And a hot sauce fan video? That's a terrible idea. It's just terrible. Make him laugh, but don't do it at the expense of others. Give him a chance to see some creativity, give him something inspiring, both of those are better than the hot sauce idea.

Edited to add: I didn't mean that to sound like I was attacking you, Kei. I realize that you meant the hot sauce thing as a suggestion of what they might do, not what they should do. Just wanted to clear that up.
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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 2

Post by kei » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:27 pm

PsychGrad0317 wrote:I would like to say that I don't understand why they haven't tried to make Mark laugh instead of making him cry, but I do understand it. It's harder to be clever and witty than it is to be touching. It takes the cheap way out, really, to try to make him cry instead of trying to make him laugh. And a hot sauce fan video? That's a terrible idea. It's just terrible. Make him laugh, but don't do it at the expense of others. Give him a chance to see some creativity, give him something inspiring, both of those are better than the hot sauce idea.

Edited to add: I didn't mean that to sound like I was attacking you, Kei. I realize that you meant the hot sauce thing as a suggestion of what they might do, not what they should do. Just wanted to clear that up.


Naw it's good :) I appreciate the clarification though. I only said that judging from the video MSB put out to get people to join. Yeah he does say they can do sour if spicy is too much, but I'm hoping the fans are smart about it. Or at least the younger ones get adult supervision. Legit don't do it if you don't know how much to use (I'm kind of hoping they'll take his ice cream scoop story as a lesson) or have a heart condition or something.

Don't mind me, my mind just always goes to the worst case scenario with a fan overdoing it only to have their family sue MSB for medical bills and publicly drag Mark's name through the mud. Yeah that's dramatic, but tumblr. MSB thinks he's being clever by putting this disclaimer on his signup form:

"I understand that handling/consumption of extremely spicy or sour foods may cause physical injury and that James/markiplierSINGSbadly is NOT responsible for any food-related injuries or damages resulting from the handling or consumption of potentially dangerous foods. I will consult a doctor or parent/guardian if I have questions."

He also has an option for people to mention if they have medical issues preventing them from participating. All well and good, but the problem with this? His form doesn't ask their age. If anyone under 18 fills it in, it's invalid.
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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 2

Post by Kierans » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:34 pm

He has an actual disclaimer for this thing? Interesting. Yeah, I can imagine some unsupervised kid chomping down on a ghost pepper and ending up in the hospital with their parents freaking out.

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 2

Post by M0nkeeButt2590 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:56 pm

MSB is really gonna get these fans to consume spicy products for a milestone video?! What a jackass! Does he seriously think Mark would want to see his fans torturing themselves on his behalf?!

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 2

Post by ritzcrackerz » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:36 pm

I'm hoping no one decides to use the Doritos Roulette for this. There's an article online that some school in the UK banned them after one student with asthma couldn't breathe from eating those chips. I agree though, I don't like this spicy thing. When I heard about this kid in the UK, all I can think about is what Mark said during Ear Biscuits when he was lying on the bathroom floor.


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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 2

Post by lastroseofmay » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:42 pm

I'm just saying,
They're better off just autotuning everyone saying herb lore to the tune of yankee doodle than risking thier health for the sake of entertainment but that's just my random opinon.

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