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Post by ZombieTown » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:47 am

Just catching up since I couldn't get on the site last night and holy shit, there's a few things to think about this morning

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by M0nkeeButt2590 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:50 am

Yeah I just quickly browsed Twitter. Minx and Mark are still following each other, but Ohm and Mark are not. But also Minx is still on Mark's featured channels on Youtube. Very strange.

It may very well be he's manipulating his psychotic rabid fanbase for his own benefit. Maybe he really did hide Jess so he could market off his availability. Either that or Jess told Ohm and Minx some twisted facts because she was still hurting from the breakup. It really is hard to tell.

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by kei » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:53 am

I don't know. The world of Let's Players is still fairly small, so when Ohm says "someone we both know" that could really be one of many, many people. Mark isn't the only one with a young fanbase, and for all the mistakes he has made, if you look at his interactions (especially at cons) he actually tries to avoid situations where people could say he was taking advantage of minors. When people hug him he makes a point of letting spectators always see where his hands are, and when he's not signing, he always spends time with friends or other people who can provide an alibi as to his whereabouts.

That's why I took issue with people calling him a pedophile earlier in the year. He has screwed up sometimes, especially the whole joke about asking for naked snapchat photos (really, Mark, what did you expect would happen?) but I sincerely doubt he's "grooming young fans" or whatever. If anything, he has tried to move them in a better direction. He just shuts down at the wrong times, when he needs to move them away from toxicity.
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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by usurpadora » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:59 am

mariokatty96 wrote:
:rofl: fine fine I was trying to be neutral for once :D I'm not a fan of his anymore anyway LOl


Hehe it's fine, I just have very strong stances on things like this because I've seen bands/Youtubers just let offensive and nasty things slide rather than step up and take action because they are too placid to care. And it really bugs me because like, peeps here on the forum spoke up about the injustice with Squid, even if some of the opinions they didn't agree on, but it just falls on deaf ears and it becomes words of the wind, not to mention the "reputation" this site has. But I know that if Mark was to speak up about it, they'd pause and listen.

It's just a personal peeve that people with influence don't use it out of fear of loss for something like money or a sub count. People like Mark and other bigwigs can do so many positive things but they just become complacent and would rather pat the unanimous fanbase blob on the head and say about how much they love them, or just ignore them when they start spreading their toxic behaviour and are literally harming lives.
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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by Gorillaz1236 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:02 am

Mark is just an idiotic man child who's too stupid to take control over his own fanbase.

I fear for any children he is.




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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by Slagg » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:09 am

M0nkeeButt2590 wrote:Yeah I just quickly browsed Twitter. Minx and Mark are still following each other, but Ohm and Mark are not. But also Minx is still on Mark's featured channels on Youtube. Very strange.

It may very well be he's manipulating his psychotic rabid fanbase for his own benefit. Maybe he really did hide Jess so he could market off his availability. Either that or Jess told Ohm and Minx some twisted facts because she was still hurting from the breakup. It really is hard to tell.

Truly? She isn't following him on any of my apps. Strange. I knew that Mark still follows her, though.
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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by mariokatty96 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:09 am

usurpadora wrote:
mariokatty96 wrote:
:rofl: fine fine I was trying to be neutral for once :D I'm not a fan of his anymore anyway LOl


Hehe it's fine, I just have very strong stances on things like this because I've seen bands/Youtubers just let offensive and nasty things slide rather than step up and take action because they are too placid to care. And it really bugs me because like, peeps here on the forum spoke up about the injustice with Squid, even if some of the opinions they didn't agree on, but it just falls on deaf ears and it becomes words of the wind, not to mention the "reputation" this site has. But I know that if Mark was to speak up about it, they'd pause and listen.

It's just a personal peeve that people with influence don't use it out of fear of loss for something like money or a sub count. People like Mark and other bigwigs can do so many positive things but they just become complacent and would rather pat the unanimous fanbase blob on the head and say about how much they love them, or just ignore them when they start spreading their toxic behaviour and are literally harming lives.


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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by Gorillaz1236 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:31 am

Guys. Just give up on Mark. He means no one any good. He's a liar and a cheater who's only motive is money and sex.

Let's all just count our losses and forget about him.


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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by PinkBear » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:00 am

The problem is Mark has this mentality of "I'll sit back and let everything sort itself out and not get involved" when 99% of the time it's something he has said or done (or in the case of Jessica, not said until he was pretty much forced to) that has caused the blow up, for a 26 year old he sure acts like a child, I mean hell, I know 7 year olds who act a lot more mature than he does.

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by boldnewtaste » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:03 am

@usurpadora i agree with a lot of what you said there, and i think you put it into words like i wanted to.

this is not a matter of mark needing to "babysit" his fandom. this is a matter of he KNOWS he has the influence to do some good, to change some people's minds and actions, but he DOESN'T.

no, he wouldn't be able to stop every single toxic person. we all know that there are assholes in this world; it's just a matter of how many assholes there are.

but i think he's made it apparent how he wants to use his influence. sure, sometimes it's something good like getting all of those people to donate to charity. sometimes, it's promoting his ex girlfriend. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by Immabatman » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:09 am

M0nkeeButt2590 wrote:Just as a quick aside, we might end up getting some more traffic problems on the way.

It seems there's a lurker in the Markiplier tag slandering our name again and making us out to be obsessive and hating on Mark and Jess for "being human" so watch out if we get more site problems or a bunch of haters.



Yep, I see that, but you post first hahaha

But anyway. I told you lurkers that my eyes are on you. But you read everything, you know that Jess come twice here (I was just the first one), and some of us (and me) apologies for her ( when she come here for the first time), and she explained everything in a master post. For me, I have no interest in personal life she has before , but by her cosplayer work, and of course their attitudes to the profession. Once again, almost all of us (some I don't know the answer) respect her, and not bullying her like you said. We have viewpoints different from her. For me, I feel happy for her start something for her and be friend with him after all, but sad that most of the persons that follow her will see her as an ex.

If you read everything, you would not generalizing all for the same reason. I know it's wrong to comment on the life of another, but we are discussing and bringing the possibility that he could have done. Some have a very severe review and some may disagree, but we respect each post without attacking each other. Even Jack came here with his opinion and we respect that. I also respect Mark and understand the reason for him do that, but he could avoid some drama that happened during this time. But it was his decision, and I understand even disagreeing with certain parts.

Most are here because they can not express themselves for fear of receiving hate and bullying messages, as received on tumblr, especially for what happened this week. We have rules here, and we know when someone goes too far. So is not this all that the lady is saying about us. I know the title is controversial, but it's the same thing when you go to another forum, such as Reddit, and comment on it about it. Besides, Reddit was the first one to have this comments. Here are more opinions debate than do bullying with others. It will depend on each user wants to apologize to anyone.

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by Kamikaze » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:58 am

WOW! Once the servers went down last night, I just quick trying...but I came back to a page and a half of crazy! Let's see here...

@totally - I'm excited to see his LP too. I enjoy Felix's LP though, but maybe there'll be some differences. Felix hasn't gotten to the death of Jessica yet (I haven't checked his YT yet to see if he posted more though) but it'll definitely be interesting indeed to watch...I guess I'll go make some popcorn and stick around for a bit longer! I agree Emily and Jess have gotta go! Nasty little creatures (IN THE GAME LURKERS, just an FYI if you can't follow)

And lurker...when you remove your rose-tinted glasses, rub your eyes, and truly see what we are discussing here...then you should talk...we are not obsessed or bashing...some lurkers have claimed "slander" - well, you can't slander here hunny...slander is VERBAL...those people are thinking libel/defamation of character...which I've said before is NOT what is happening here! A few pages back I explained what this all meant...YOU go look it up!

On Wade, Bob, Minx, Cry, etc - It's sad how fans think they can just waltz into a convention and scream random things at his friends because MARK did it...that's between Mark and his friends, NOT the fandom! I don't care if it was on a video or not. Stop trying to appease your senpai...he's a human...not a god. FAR from it! It's sad he doesn't do more with Minx and Cry and others...I enjoyed their early videos together! It seemed they all genuinely had a blast together

Because of Mark's fans, no one is going to want to collab with him anymore. Shoving someone down another person's throat just causes distaste and resentment. This is why I speculate and NEVER shove my thoughts down anyone's throat. I speak my peace and they judge! Everyone is getting tired of it...maybe that's why a lot of them keep their distance because they can't be associated with that drama and mayhem

(I just lurk and read so pay me no heed, I'd rather observe than participate)

I just want to say that it is absolutely Mark's responsibility to put on his big boy trousers and be strict with his fanbase, not just because of Squid (which is awful) but because of the general mentality. This behaviour is not a separate collective that happens regardless of Mark, it's because of him. He's the direct reason fans are acting the way they are and if he had any shred of respect for the people in his fanbase he'd tell them to stop it. But it's easier to stand by and let shit happen to individual peoples' lives than actually care and speak up in defence of the few.

It's not a question about being a babysitter. It's a question of his power and influence. When and if Mark speaks up, people listen. The fact that he could theoretically make a tumblr post saying "you all need to calm the absolute fuck down", without resorting to passive aggressive politeness like "I love you, you are my fans", yada yada, says a lot about why he doesn't. Because he knows damn well that the bulk of the people who support him enough are the very people we want him to speak against. The ones who beef up views, sub counts, who spam social media, who are basically his money engine, are the ones he'd be in danger of losing if he opened his mouth. So why would he care about Squid's life and wellbeing when he could be silent and keep the status quo?

It's not an insinuation that Mark is eeeeeeeeeevil *rubs hands together evilly* but it's that he's got the power of change and he could make his community a better place and in turn make social media a safer place, make it more pleasant and generally be authoritative but instead he just lets it happen cause he's got a limp noodle for a spine. He's the goddamn leader and God of his fanbase, he should damn well start acting like one.


@usurpadora - I couldn't have said it better myself! He does influence these Markiplites...and CAN do something. Instead of being a soft spoken "please don't bully in my name" - he should go full rage mode and put his foot down...don't use soft language...tell it like it is...yell about it, say enough is enough in an authoritative manner, sometimes you gotta get a bit loud and brutal to get noticed and have things sink in. How do other YTers control their fanbase with MORE subs than Mark? I get he isn't confrontational and doesn't want to be looked at in a negative light...well, him standing back is making him look bad. He's allowing these children to run the show...that's too much power for a 13-16 yr old to have when they don't have the brain capacity to deal with it - I'm not saying they're stupid...but they haven't developed fully to make rational decisions...they rely more on emotion than logic...the switch over is learned with experience and time. And don't give me that "Age doesn't mean wisdom" crap that he tweeted out...majority of the time, the older you get, the wiser you become unless you are so sheltered and stuck in your ways that it doesn't happen! Some of the posters here who are 17, 18, 19, 20, 21...are very wise compared to 25, 26, 27 year olds...but that's because they are OPEN to things...not closed-minded

I don't think Mark is a lost cause - or calling him a liar and a cheat is really the correct terms...BUT to each his own opinion...I just think Mark needs to grow a pair, the red head needs to fill her shoes by HERSELF, not ride the coat tails of a "man " she's obsessed over for a few years and create her own damn identity! I feel for the both of them, I truly do. I don't hate them...but I sure as hell don't like them! But that's not gonna stop me for giving my input and just maybe having someone (not them) see it and help someone out! I've met some real down to earth people here, who are NOT obsessed and NOT BULLIES. The posters here are SUPER respectful to each other, and help each other, no matter if they agree with someone or not...and THAT is what a community is about!!!! :respekt:

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by Kamikaze » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:10 am

EDIT: my slander comment was for the LURKER not anyone posting here..sorry, I re-read it and it sounded like I was attacking you guys!! I'M SORRY!!!! :(

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Post by T_f » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:15 am

M0nkeeButt2590 wrote:Just as a quick aside, we might end up getting some more traffic problems on the way.

It seems there's a lurker in the Markiplier tag slandering our name again and making us out to be obsessive and hating on Mark and Jess for "being human" so watch out if we get more site problems or a bunch of haters.



Oh yes, we're so terrible, calling out BS when we see it. Just awful.


Oh wait, we didn't ruin anyone's lives ever.


Good job, Tumblrinas. You just look even more ridiculous. Keep up the good work. *slow clap*


I keep seeing their responses to anything related to Mark, and I can't help but go:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th3DPAX27sA[/youtube]
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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by Chatterbox_380 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:16 am

Wait, what happened to make him a cheater? And to the anon on tumblr, bitch post a photo of yourself. My Black ass has my photo and I say it as well as on here. You fuck with anyone else in this group and you will regret it. We talk shit but unlike you, we will apologize when wrong.

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by ZombieTown » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:20 am

T_f wrote:
M0nkeeButt2590 wrote:Just as a quick aside, we might end up getting some more traffic problems on the way.

It seems there's a lurker in the Markiplier tag slandering our name again and making us out to be obsessive and hating on Mark and Jess for "being human" so watch out if we get more site problems or a bunch of haters.



Oh yes, we're so terrible, calling out BS when we see it. Just awful.


Oh wait, we didn't ruin anyone's lives ever.


Good job, Tumblrinas. You just look even more ridiculous. Keep up the good work. *slow clap*


I keep seeing their responses to anything related to Mark, and I can't help but go:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th3DPAX27sA[/youtube]


Oh yeah, we're awful for staying in our own lane here on this site, but going on a witch hunt to destroy a young woman's life is A ok.

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by ZombieTown » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:28 am

Reading all this, it kind of reminds me of all my friends that are teachers. I know it's not the same, but I've seen my friends deal with kids and put them in check plenty of times. The kid might not change for the better, but at least in the classroom they'll behave. It's like Mark is a teacher in a classroom packed with a ton of unruly kids and can't figure out how to get them to STFU and listen to the lesson. Not everyone is cut out to be a teacher, the same way not everyone is cut out to lead a fandom. He still needs to fucking try, though. Teachers deal with this crap for whole careers while his butt only has to deal with it for a fraction of it (since I don't really think this is going to be a lifelong thing for him).

Sorry for the text vomit, just a thought that occurred to me.

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Post by DaylightAmy » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:29 am

Can I just asd that Mark's uncomfortable relationship to the fanbase started much earlier on than most people like to admit? I recall him putting that "Girlfriend Application" out, me throwing up in my mouth a little, and him and his posse insisting it was 'for jokes'.

I didn't think it was funny. There were already minor girls watching him then, they obviously did NOT get the joke... and he only ever addressed that he thought it was funny he was still getting applications. Not asking people to stop because it was a joke, or explain that NOBODY should take an application for affection to heart because it is degrading?

That really irked me and I feel like he's been weird about and around his community since around that time.

Edit: also, really happy I found this board, at the time I could never find likeminded people who were willing to disapprove out loud.
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Post by Kamikaze » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:36 am

ZombieTown wrote:Reading all this, it kind of reminds me of all my friends that are teachers. I know it's not the same, but I've seen my friends deal with kids and put them in check plenty of times. The kid might not change for the better, but at least in the classroom they'll behave. It's like Mark is a teacher in a classroom packed with a ton of unruly kids and can't figure out how to get them to STFU and listen to the lesson. Not everyone is cut out to be a teacher, the same way not everyone is cut out to lead a fandom. He still needs to fucking try, though. Teachers deal with this crap for whole careers while his butt only has to deal with it for a fraction of it (since I don't really think this is going to be a lifelong thing for him).

Sorry for the text vomit, just a thought that occurred to me.


THANK YOU!!!! Someone finally sees it!!! Being a teacher is rough...his job is not...he is able to hide behind a computer screen...teachers must face students and parents head on, face-to-face...no matter the interaction. Teacher cannot ignore a negative interaction because "it scares them" but Mark is able to. Teacher put up with a lot of shit and really don't get paid enough for it. I know...believe me...I know! So THANK YOU for bringing this up! I'm glad someone sees it!

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Post by Totally » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:43 am

So...Squid is just implying that they're gonna leave right? Not...hurt themselves? RIght? Because I'm really worried but I'm just checking with everyone else so you can all reassure everyone that they won't hurt themselves...Right?

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Post by T_f » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:47 am

Totally wrote:So...Squid is just implying that they're gonna leave right? Not...hurt themselves? RIght? Because I'm really worried but I'm just checking with everyone else so you can all reassure everyone that they won't hurt themselves...Right?


Forget living anymore, there’s no point in being alive when every waking moment is shit. Fuck this world, fuck Markiplier, fuck Jessica Fossey, fuck tumblr, fuck that doxxer…I hope you’re all happy now, this is what you wanted right? You wanted me to kill myself and be out of your way forever? Well hope you’re happy with getting your wish you fuckers.


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Totally wrote:So...Squid is just implying that they're gonna leave right? Not...hurt themselves? RIght? Because I'm really worried but I'm just checking with everyone else so you can all reassure everyone that they won't hurt themselves...Right?


Just checked their tumblr and oh god I'm scared... it's really bad

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by kei » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:49 am

kamikaze wrote:How do other YTers control their fanbase with MORE subs than Mark?


Right now, the only "big" Youtuber with more subs than Mark is Felix. His fanbase is weird, but not nearly as ruthless as Mark's. The comments were getting out of control, which is why he did the whole cutting YT comments off, but his fans aren't quite as batshit crazy (how is that for irony?) so there isn't much else he needs to do. No one is calling Marzia a cinnamon roll (though she does seem to be a sweet girl), she's worked hard to promote her channel without forever being linked to him, and he's never used passive-aggressive emotional manipulation to get people to subscribe to her, so there isn't much drama about it.

Like someone else already mentioned, it's just weird how every Youtuber has backed away from Mark, including Felix, Cry, Ohm, Totalbiscuit, pretty much everyone except maybe Dodger (and possibly Minx). It could just be him trying to keep his circle of friends smaller and more intimate, but I've also never seen so many others reluctant to even bring him up anymore.

That actually reminds me of something. On a recent livestream, Cry was playing around with the new Alexa system from Amazon. He was trying out its Wikipedia function by looking up different youtubers, and someone told him to look up his own name but Alexa couldn't find it. Someone else (Russ?) told him to look up Markiplier, and his immediate response was "oh god no." :P But he still did it, and celebrated when Alexa couldn't find him either. :lol: I don't even think it's a comment about his personality so much as the fact he got so popular so fast, overshooting legit everyone else who's been doing LPs for years and helped him get his start. No one can figure out how it happened, but they know enough not to rile his volatile fanbase.
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Post by ZombieTown » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:55 am

Kamikaze wrote:
ZombieTown wrote:Reading all this, it kind of reminds me of all my friends that are teachers. I know it's not the same, but I've seen my friends deal with kids and put them in check plenty of times. The kid might not change for the better, but at least in the classroom they'll behave. It's like Mark is a teacher in a classroom packed with a ton of unruly kids and can't figure out how to get them to STFU and listen to the lesson. Not everyone is cut out to be a teacher, the same way not everyone is cut out to lead a fandom. He still needs to fucking try, though. Teachers deal with this crap for whole careers while his butt only has to deal with it for a fraction of it (since I don't really think this is going to be a lifelong thing for him).

Sorry for the text vomit, just a thought that occurred to me.


THANK YOU!!!! Someone finally sees it!!! Being a teacher is rough...his job is not...he is able to hide behind a computer screen...teachers must face students and parents head on, face-to-face...no matter the interaction. Teacher cannot ignore a negative interaction because "it scares them" but Mark is able to. Teacher put up with a lot of shit and really don't get paid enough for it. I know...believe me...I know! So THANK YOU for bringing this up! I'm glad someone sees it!


You're welcome! It's just, I get it. Lots of my friends are teachers, my mom used to tutor kids, I was a teacher's assistant, and NONE of that is easy. Working with large groups of kids is difficult, and he has to deal with 9 million. I get that it can be stressful, but he can turn off the computer and walk away while still making a killing, a teacher can't do that. It's 8 hours and then all the extra stuff they got to do, it never seems to end, but they don't get a break, but lots of them pull it off and keep their sanity. If they can do it, so can he. He should see it from that perspective and realize he can try to reign in his fandom, it's never too late to at least try. It might not work, but he can at least freaking try.

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Re: Markiplier's Relationships - Part 5

Post by Gorillaz1236 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:01 am

ZombieTown wrote:
Kamikaze wrote:
ZombieTown wrote:Reading all this, it kind of reminds me of all my friends that are teachers. I know it's not the same, but I've seen my friends deal with kids and put them in check plenty of times. The kid might not change for the better, but at least in the classroom they'll behave. It's like Mark is a teacher in a classroom packed with a ton of unruly kids and can't figure out how to get them to STFU and listen to the lesson. Not everyone is cut out to be a teacher, the same way not everyone is cut out to lead a fandom. He still needs to fucking try, though. Teachers deal with this crap for whole careers while his butt only has to deal with it for a fraction of it (since I don't really think this is going to be a lifelong thing for him).

Sorry for the text vomit, just a thought that occurred to me.


THANK YOU!!!! Someone finally sees it!!! Being a teacher is rough...his job is not...he is able to hide behind a computer screen...teachers must face students and parents head on, face-to-face...no matter the interaction. Teacher cannot ignore a negative interaction because "it scares them" but Mark is able to. Teacher put up with a lot of shit and really don't get paid enough for it. I know...believe me...I know! So THANK YOU for bringing this up! I'm glad someone sees it!


You're welcome! It's just, I get it. Lots of my friends are teachers, my mom used to tutor kids, I was a teacher's assistant, and NONE of that is easy. Working with large groups of kids is difficult, and he has to deal with 9 million. I get that it can be stressful, but he can turn off the computer and walk away while still making a killing, a teacher can't do that. It's 8 hours and then all the extra stuff they got to do, it never seems to end, but they don't get a break, but lots of them pull it off and keep their sanity. If they can do it, so can he. He should see it from that perspective and realize he can try to reign in his fandom, it's never too late to at least try. It might not work, but he can at least freaking try.



He won't try. He'll just keep being useless.




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